When TFSAs were launched in 2009, investors were thrilled with their new tax-free growth potential. However, the new account type also created another asset-location decision to wrap our heads around. We’ve already explored the impact of asset location between TFSAs vs. RRSPs, as well as between RRSPs vs. taxable accounts. That leaves one more permutation to consider: TFSAs vs. taxable accounts.
The good news is, deciding whether to hold equities in your TFSA or taxable account first seems much more straight-forward than the other asset location decisions we’ve already reviewed. So, hang in there.
A savings account that isn’t
Many Canadians have chosen to invest in their TFSA as if it were just another bank account, letting their deposits languish in cash. Others have dialed up the risk a whisker-width by investing in fixed income securities like GICs or bonds. Another subset has gone the opposite direction and filled their TFSAs with growth-oriented equities. A few have even dialed up their risk into the red zone by piling up on penny stocks. You can read about some of these lucky winners here. But remember: For every wild success story, there are undoubtedly far more unsung players who lost it all.
Blame all these random acts on whoever decided to call it a tax-free savings account, as if the holdings were to be treated as “extra” money. If I were in charge, I’d rename it to tax-free investment account, which I believe is the more appropriate way to think about it.
Where to, equities?
In the context of appropriately managing your TFSA within your overall portfolio management, let’s explore whether your equities should first go to your taxable account or your TFSA. For this, we’ll continue with similar assumptions from our past examples, holding $100,000 in each account type with a 20% tax on taxable capital gains, a 10-year measurement period, no portfolio rebalancing, etc. We’ll add one more parameter for good measure: The equities are US stocks, with a 2% gross dividend yield (the S&P 500 Index dividend yield as of June 30, 2018).
After reading our Foreign Withholding Taxes white paper, many readers assumed it was better to hold foreign equities in their taxable account rather than their TFSA, as withholding taxes were generally recoverable in taxable accounts, but unrecoverable in their TFSA. Not so fast with this logic:
- Investors pay tax on the annual dividend income in a taxable account. Assuming a 50% marginal tax rate on a 2% foreign dividend yield in a taxable account, you would lose 1% per year in taxes. This is compared to losing 0.3% in foreign withholding taxes in a TFSA account, based on a 2% dividend yield × 15% US withholding tax.
- Even if you use a swap-based US equity ETF in your taxable account, the 0.3% annual swap fee is identical to the 0.3% foreign withholding taxes levied on foreign US dividends in the TFSA.
- Unrealized capital gains in a taxable account eventually must be realized (unless you donate the shares in the future), so taxes would be payable then. Any growth in the TFSA is never taxed.
With a foreign withholding tax myth dispelled, let’s continue to explore where those equities really belong.
Option #1: Equities in the taxable account first
For Option #1, I’ve made the following assumptions:
- We hold the swap-based Horizons S&P 500 Index ETF (HXS) in the taxable account. This makes the calculations easier to follow, and the portfolio more tax-efficient.
- The taxable account’s gross return on equities is 7%. (Net return is 6.7%, after swap fees of 0.3%.)
- We hold a plain-vanilla fixed income ETF in the TFSA, with a gross return of 3%. Net return also is essentially 3%, as there are no foreign withholding taxes or swap fees.
- At the end of the 10-year holding period, the gains in the taxable account are realized, and the taxable portion (i.e. half of the gains) are taxed at 20%. The TFSA proceeds are never taxed.
The post-tax portfolio value after 10 years is $316,534.
Option #2: Equities in the TFSA account first
Now let’s switch the asset locations of the equities and fixed income to see if it makes a difference. In this example, I’ve held the equities in the TFSA account first, while the lower-yielding fixed income securities are held in the taxable account, with the following assumptions:
- The swap-based Horizons CDN Select Universe Bond ETF (HBB) is held in the taxable account (again, for tax-efficiency and easier math).
- The gross return on fixed income in the taxable account is 3% (the net return is 2.85%, after swap fees of 0.15% are levied; this is slightly less than in our first example – 2.85% vs. 3%).
- The TFSA gross total return on equities using a plain-vanilla US equity ETF is 7%. (Net return is 6.7%, after unrecoverable foreign withholding taxes of 0.3%, based on 15% of the 2% gross dividend yield.)
After 10 years, the post-tax portfolio value is $320,471, which is $3,937 more than in our first example.
Pulling it all together
Today’s comparisons indicate that the preferred tax-efficient strategy is to hold growth assets with higher expected returns in your TFSA, even if you lose a portion to foreign withholding taxes. As always, there are exceptions to this rule of thumb, but I believe it should be the default starting point for discussion.
In my next blog post, I’ll take you through specific examples on how to set up my model ETF portfolios across your various accounts, depending on which asset location path you choose to follow.
I forgot to ask If you have any Tfsa or other account specific model portfolios since they have more foreign taxes than RRSPs.
If someone is a student and has a lower income, could a taxable cash account be better than Tfsa for US, international and emerging equities? I used your Calculator and it seemed there’s less foreign tax in the cash act. Would the domestic tax simply be counted as income tax? Thank you!
with the higher GIC rates in 2022 will this view still make sense?
Hi Justin,
Thank you for the great advice you dispense here for us DIY investors. I’m building a mid-six figures portfolio in a taxable account. I’ve looked at your model portfolio and would like to know if you think BXF would be ideal for the bonds part of the portfolio. I own ZAG in a registered account, but my understanding is that BXF would be more tax-efficient in a taxable account, and more stable should interest rates creep higher in the comings years. Or would you recommend a swap-based ETF, even though CRA as said they’re looking into taxing these products? We plan on keeping this portfolio for decades, spending at the rate of 3% of assets per year or less. Thank you.
@Nicholas: You’re very welcome – happy to help :)
BXF is a decent option for taxable accounts if you’re looking for tax-efficiency and liquidity (if you don’t need liquidity, you could also consider a 1-5 year ladder of GICs).
The BMO Discount Bond Index ETF (ZDB) is what I use with clients as a taxable alternative to ZAG (although it has more duration/term risk than BXF or GICs).
I’ve mostly stayed away from the swap-based ETFs in the past (mainly due to the CRA issues, and because I’m not confident Horizons new corporate structure will save much in the way of taxes).
I’ve just waded through this trio of posts. An interesting analysis of a oft debated subject. Thanks! (I’m a bit surprised you didn’t mention the withholding tax differences a bit more, but i think i already know them.)
@Erin: I feel like all I ever do is mention foreign withholding taxes in my blogs ;)
yeah… I have since caught up on those blog posts.
Hello Justin, thank you so much for all your postings on the subject of withholding taxes. For fixed-income investment in USD, I wonder whether any withholding taxes would be applied to US Bond ETFs (e.g. BSV) in TFSA? If so, would you recommend using Canadian listed US Bond ETFs (e.g. ZTS.U) instead despite the slightly higher MER? Thanks!
@Dave: For Canadians, I generally advocate holding currency-hedged global bond ETFs (or just plain old Canadian bond ETFs). Is there a reason you want to hold unhedged US bond ETFs in your TFSA in the first place?
In terms of foreign withholding taxes in a TFSA, ZTS.U shouldn’t have withholding taxes applied. I can’t say for certain if BSV won’t (as I’ve never purchased it in a TFSA or any other account), but I would assume it would have similar tax implications to ZTS.U. If you don’t want to convert your CAD to USD, ZTS.U might be a more appropriate choice.
Hi Justin,
Thanks for your quick response! I hold some US dollars in my TFSA account as travel funds. I really like the Vanguard bond ETFs like BSV, BIV and BND because of their diversification and low cost, but I’m not sure whether IRS will treat these ETFs yield as bond interest or dividend. Any advice would be much appreciated.
For TFSA, would HXS be any more beneficial (accumulate more $ over years) vs. just VFV (with 15% withholding tax), for example?
Thank you
@Andrew: ETFs tracking the S&P 500 Index currently have a gross dividend yield of 2% (as of March 31, 2019). Unrecoverable U.S. foreign withholding taxes on VFV if held in a TFSA would be 15% (or 0.30% = 2% dividend yield x 15% FWT). The swap fee on HXS is also 0.30%, so there would be no benefit of holding HXS over VFV.
In fact, as HXS has a higher MER than VFV (0.11% vs. 0.08%) and additional counterparty risk, VFV would be superior to HXS when held in a TFSA.
Hi Justin,
Hoping you can offer some advice for me. I have maxed out registered accounts $ and am looking to invest about 50k$ into my taxable account. I wont need the funds for 15-20 years. Would you re recommend depositing into one of Horizons swap based Etf’s ?
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
James
@James dermott: I can’t provide specific advice to investors.
Hi Justin,
Your model portfolio neatly lays out options to split up the XAW ETF depending on the type of account. I like the rebalancing calculator you posted, but the sheets are protected which prevents me from changing the inputs. I’d like to expand it. Any chance of getting the unprotected spreadsheet?
This was a welcome post as I am now retired and treating all my accounts as one as opposed to having the 40% FI/60% Equity allocation in each account.
It is nice Information about taxation for all the investors. It is also helpful for me to upgrade my information.
Regards
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